
Alireza Alavitabar is a prominent Iranian thinker among reformists. He is a member of the Islamic Iran Participation Front and was the editor of Sobh-e-Emrooz newspaper. Rooz spoke with him about the 2009 Presidential elections and reformist candidates. Here are the details.
Rooz (R): There are currently three presidential candidate choices in the reformist camp: seyed Mohammad Khatami, Mehdi Karubi, and Abdollah Nouri. I would like to talk about them. As the ex-President, Khatami seems to enjoy the largest following among reformers. Do you think he is capable of advancing democratic goals?
Alireza Alavitabar (AA):Under the current conditions, moving towards democracy is taking place through existing potentials inside the country’s legal power structure. The most that the regime can offer is a pseudo-democracy. The current potentials of the pro-democracy forces now do not go beyond this. Reformists can do three things regarding democratic reforms: First, return rationalism to the economy and attain a sort of relative independence from politics. In the long-term this will benefit in moving towards democracy, and the goal has supporters among conservatives and hardliners. Second, democratizing relations within and the organization of the executive branch of government. Third, Making democratic demands and the democratic process as part of the national dialogue and political negotiations within the regime. I think Mr. Khatami is the only person who can mobilize a coalition and organize it so that these three goals are pursued.
R: In view of his past 8-year presidential record, do you think Mr. Khatami can accomplish this and present a strong response to the obstacles and problems in this path? Does he have the ability to fight the non-democratic pushes of the regime?
AA: To stand against these forces and assertiveness are not related to just personal and psychological issues. Two other issues are important: one are views and opinions. A focused perspective brings about courage. The second are the supporters, i.e. their demands and direction. The larger the supporters and the stronger their assertiveness the larger will be the perseverance of their leaders and politicians. My perception is that how reformist groups and intellectuals behave will play a key role Mr. Khatami’s level of resistance to the un-democratic demands of the hardliners and conservatives. Neutralizing the pressures that Mr. Khatami may face require corresponding pressure.
R: Mehdi Karubi is the next candidate. What do you think are his thoughts in entering the race? Do you think he can win the voters?
AA: I think that Mr. Karubi believes that the leader of the regime at best can tolerate him only inside the regime, and so any person or group that raises deeper or larger criticism and dissent will not be acceptable. So on one hand he has the sanction of the supreme leader to participate in the presidential race while on the other, because there is no alternative, he thinks dissidents and reformers will have to support him. This translates into an increase of his changes in the race. Now how many votes can he actually muster depends on what his competitors do.
R: Abdollah Nouri is the third candidate of the reformists. Do you think his presence is a positive one?
AA: If he comes up with a specific plan for creating change in Iran then it is. This will create competition among pro-change and reformists which will raise the level of the internal debate. And it will also formalize the diversity inside this group. In any case his presence in the race will be fruitful if a meaningful difference between what he stands for and others emerges. But if some use Mr. Nouri’s participation to attack other reformers, then his presence will not be helpful.
R: Abdollah Nouri’s supporters have announced that even if Mr. Nouri were disqualified to run, they would be pursuing ways to connect him to the social movements and to create a momentum within society. Do you think this is practical?
AA: If he is set at the center of a team which presents a clear dialog and presents such an atmosphere, and if he also can create the organization and relations, then one can be hopeful that it will succeed. But if a small group which lacks experience among politicians and is accused of flip flopping tries to do this under the name of Mr. Nouri, then I do not think this is practical. Let’s not forget that the creation or strengthening of a social movement requires the ability to create a dialog and a clear credibility among politicians and social activists.


