Totalitarian Government Will Fail
Interview with Ayatollah Montazeri - 2008.08.18

Mehrzad Farhoodi
As the debate and contemplations about next year’s presidential elections (the country’s tenth) in Iran pick momentum, Rooz raised some of the issues with ayatollah Montazeri who provided his views in response.
When asked about his views on the possibility of Mr. Abdollah Nouri running for the presidency, ayatollah Montazeri said, “I have no views on the elections yet.” [Cleric Abdollah Nouri was a member of former president Khatami’s cabinet and was arrested, charged and imprisoned by the judiciary for activities that were deemed to be inconsistent with the mainstream views on politics and religion.]
Regarding the various invitations that have been extended to former president Khatami to become a presidential candidate, Mr. Montazeri said, “I sent a message when he first became president in 1997 that the way things were going he would not be able to continue working. If the cabinet ministers, governors etc of the chief executive are not in line with him, he cannot successfully take a single step. I told him that if I were in his place I would go to the leader and tell him: ‘Your position and respect is acknowledged, but I have received 22 million votes from people who knew that the leader had a different person in mind for the office.’ The message that the 22 million people who voted for him implicitly sent is that they did not approve of the person that the leader had desired as president. Mr. Khatami should have told the leader that the 22 million individuals who voted for him had expectations of him, and that he could not do his job if the leader interfered in his choice of cabinet ministers, governors, etc and imposed his choices for senior positions. He should have told the leader that if he continued his interference, he would then resign from his position and thank the public for their support.”
Regarding the security apparatus of the country, this senior cleric who had once been the deputy supreme leader of Iran said, “The structure of the ministry of intelligence is bad. While there are good, honest and sincere people working in the field of intelligence. When Mr. Khatami became president, I sent a message to his intelligence minister that the ministry’s organization structure was bad. If the deputies were to remain while a new minister had been appointed who would be expected to sign off everything the deputies brought to him, the organizational structure of the agency would not change and would remain bad. I told him that what people expect of him was to change the structure of the agency and that the intelligence the body obtained should be in harmony with the public, and not against them through the wrong individuals who were bent on creating criminal dossiers for the public. I have information that the ministry has some corrupt individuals. Of course there are also some good people at the agency too.”
On the duties of the supreme leader of Iran and his involvement in the various issues pertaining to the state this senior cleric said, “Mr. Khatami should have been a bit more forceful. The leader too should have remained within the confines of his authority. The meaning of leader is that he should monitor events so ensure that no activities that are contrary to religious principles take place. If he does notice that the president or a cabinet minister have engaged in activities that are not in line with religious tenets, then he should intervene and stop this. But he should create his own structure and a royal guard which is larger than those of monarchs around the world, and make himself unreachable. The leader and those around him should not interfere in the workings of the administrative ministries or of the provincial governors, or in all other places. It is wrong for him to do that. The country cannot be run in this fashion because there will be multiple authorities and governments each of which will be doing their own thing. A totalitarian administration in which two or three specific individuals determine state affairs and the public is a nobody will fail in today’s world.”
“Unfortunately the reform period (led by president Khatami’s administration) was not used well. It was possible to make better use of that atmosphere. In any case, real reforms are more than just slogans and rhetoric for which the public rose up and created the [1979] revolution, but which have been forgotten because of the passage of time or disinformation, or carelessness. These must be revived and implemented by the state and the ruling system must be reformed. Under these circumstances, the responsibility of people, thinkers and well-wishers who are popular is to provide reasonable and constructive criticism, including useful ideas and projects to reform the structure of the state. My notices and criticism, in the past and now, have been based on this,” ayatollah Montazeri added.
According to this senior cleric, “What may be the obstacle to reforming a legitimate and popular regime are material, political or dogmatic issues. Those who claim to be reformists too must, foremost, possess thoughts and engage in activities that are consistent with Islam and the ideals of the revolution. Otherwise these will not be a constructive source for reforms and change.”
